Chaos control is it fusion's future? (if it has one)

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Chaos control is it fusion's future? (if it has one)

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Chaos control? Sounds weird? It is strange, but is this the lucky construct that might become the lucky donkey?
I have often wondered why complex systems develop in a universe that is supposedly undergoing increasing disorder through entropy.
Could disorder increasing actually open more pathways or branching possibilities? Can this branching be controlled?

Sabine Hossenfelder has a new video out that touches on this in a positive manner related to fusion. Watch, and then weigh and consider.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1-cwamhwag

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Yet another good video from Sabine.

I am not sure what is being done with AI is chaos control but rater process control. Making predictive adjustments closer and close to the event happening is process control. It often happens over minutes and hours with chemical manufacturing for example. Small changes to minimize the perturbations of a non chaotic system. But does it matter if it is chaotic or not when the adjustment occurs close in time scale of the impending changes?

The difference between process control and chaos control seems to be both the formulator model. One is predictive and one is not at least in long time frames. The fusion example is more like process control as it is occurring close to the event that needs to be changed. The AI runs simulation after simulation to learn some predictive behaviors that bridge a longer time period. While this may indeed be very practical for control of chaotic systems, it is still not going back very close to the initial starting points. For that, I think a new model will have to be formulated for chaos.

Some of these models already exist for simple systems. One is rigid body motion and gimbal lock. A very simple example once the equations are put forth.

https://youtu.be/1VPfZ_XzisU
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I have seen that video before and it is great regarding spin about the maximum moment of inertia.

Inertia is one of the most mysterious forces right up there with gravity and may be tied to it in some unknown fashion. Inertia is so mysterious that physics at the deepest level doesn't consider it a force at all. It is viewed as a simple resistance to change in motion. Mach considered it a superluminal communication to all matter in the universe. A part of mass that is antithetical to any gravitational, atomic mass change in motion. Mass has the capacity to, at rest or in uniform relative motion, form a stabilizing "field", if you will, with the universe when mass in at rest relative to the universe as a whole or in uniform motion. Force must be applied to overcome this potential resistive "field" set up between the mass and the rest of the universe to seek the lowest field state of matter when a change in motion is detected.

A lead weight at rest on a table is gravitationally fixed to it on the earth rotating in space. Even though we might think relative to the universe and being on a radius arm of a spinning globe that it is accelerating with relation to the universe, but it is actually gravitationally locked to that globe and moving at a constant relative motion relative to the universe. Here the acceleration that we call centrifugal force is gravitationally locked to the lead weight. This is why gravity and inertial mass might have a linkage yet to be understood.

In the case of the wing nut, any centrifugal force in the spinning of the imbalanced mass creates a building inertial imbalance force which inertia resists to flip the piece which is or was in simple linear motion about its inertial axis. The universe via inertia sought to resist the acceleratory motion causing the free spinning mass to resist the mounting mass/inertia imbalance and torque over to a temporary more stable form of uniform motion, having exchanged inertial forces to kinetic motion . The inertial imbalance builds internal inertial force again until that force can flip the item, to, once again seek stability in the mass' motion and building inertial tension from the universe coupled to the masses imbalanced motion. (My feelings related to this inertia, universe, gravitational mass coupling to motion within the universe.) I feel all matter has a gravitational-inertial field linkage to the entire fabric of the universe.

I love the term, inertial, ponderable mass. Quite inclusive.

A great book treating inertia by doctors Peter and Neal Graneau, In the Grip of the Distant Universe , would be worth the effort for deep thinkers.

https://www.amazon.com/Grip-Distant-Uni ... 9812567542


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