Is this part of EMC2 research finally coming to light?

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Is this part of EMC2 research finally coming to light?

Post by Mike Beauford » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:58 pm

I'm wondering if Lockheed is going after this to get a piece of the fusion pie so to speak. It sure sounds like what EMC2 was up to ... http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/ ... EM20141015. Funny how they don't mention exactly the method though they are using.
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Re: Is this part of EMC2 research finally coming to light?

Post by Jim Kovalchick » Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:05 pm

Here is a better write up on the concept

http://aviationweek.com/technology/skun ... or-details

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Re: Is this part of EMC2 research finally coming to light?

Post by Mike Beauford » Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:45 pm

Ah, I got it wrong. This is a Tokamak concept, not a fusor.
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Re: Is this part of EMC2 research finally coming to light?

Post by Chris Bradley » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:18 pm

McGuire's thesis looked to me to be riddled with one assumption after another.

Looking at this machine, he appears to have jumped to the conclusion that folks doing mirror-machine fusion for years didn't know what they were doing, so he'll have a go, because that's all I see in these pictures.

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Re: Is this part of EMC2 research finally coming to light?

Post by Will Caruana » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:09 pm

Back in March there was a post about Lockheed/Skunk Works doing fusion on the forums viewtopic.php?f=16&t=9222&p=62520

It referenced articles that where at least a year old. Lockheed/Skunk Works said last year that in 5 years they would have a 100MW prototype and in 10 years a 100MW power system https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAsRFVbcyUY#t=728 This again was back in 2013. It doesn't seem like much has changed though they are still moving forward and a say again they are only 5 years away from a prototype. I really do hope the succeed but this makes me think of the quote "Fusion is the energy of the future....and it always will be"

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Re: Is this part of EMC2 research finally coming to light?

Post by Tom McCarthy » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:49 pm

http://www.siliconrepublic.com/clean-te ... clear-fusi

Sent by a friend, was about to ale a new post when I realised somebody had got to it already.

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Re: Is this part of EMC2 research finally coming to light?

Post by Chris Bradley » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:18 pm

Yet another 'fluff' report of the same regurgitated material, or non-material if you prefer.

Virtually every sentence is a fantasy stretch of the imagination with no substantiating information on any of it.

Reflecting the seriousness of the piece, it ends with a comparison with the 'e-cat'. Whether an intentional sleight, or clever journalism, the Lockheed effort appears to have been inadvertently compared with its true peers.

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Re: Is this part of EMC2 research finally coming to light?

Post by Dan Knapp » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:56 pm

The Lockheed patent applications were just published (October 9). To see them, search Google Patents for
US20140301517, US20140301518, US20140301519. The inventor name is Thomas John McGuire.
Hopefully, the skeptics will read them before they spew forth venom. Skeptics would be well advised to use discretion in selecting the names they apply to these researchers. Lockheed is probably likely to be less tolerant of libel than university professors.
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Re: Is this part of EMC2 research finally coming to light?

Post by Chris Bradley » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:09 pm

You seem to be missing a number. US patent applications consist of a year number followed by 7 digits.

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Re: Is this part of EMC2 research finally coming to light?

Post by Dan Knapp » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:14 pm

Sorry, transcription error. Correct numbers are:
US20140301517, US20140301518, US20140301519.
Thanks for catching this.

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