The site seems to have a number of active threads that meander through topics and trivial posts. This is something that has just spiked for some reason.
While online learning of fusion and its related technologies is good, the site is meant to be for independent learners and not an online tutoring session for every single detail.
Members of the forum need to be doing 90% of the work in their own minds and spaces. Sure some questions will come up but these should be the exception rather than some expected daily bail out on every last aspect of building a plasma chamber or doing fusion.
I did of a bit of a parody on some of the actual trivial exchanges on the site and the insanity of incessantly nesting quotes at viewtopic.php?t=15711
Let's try to stay focused on relevant questions, good science, and safety. Some of the fringe work and procedures going on are taking the site away from the heavy fact based work that has been done here to date.
Trivial conversations on the forum
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Trivial conversations on the forum
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Re: Trivial conversations on the forum
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Some while back (maybe around the time of HEAS 2024?) there was some discussion about finding an "AI Layer" that could lay atop the formidable databases that have been compiled here, so that new-ish user with specific questions about nuts and bolts could ask a question and the AI / ChatGPT layer would drill thorough the data and come up with an answers.
That would be an viable alternative to these very specific ("trivial") threads we're getting.
I mean, if it's even a viable approach. I don't know enough about how AI works to say for sure.
But I know... I'll ask ChatGPT!
Stand by!
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Some while back (maybe around the time of HEAS 2024?) there was some discussion about finding an "AI Layer" that could lay atop the formidable databases that have been compiled here, so that new-ish user with specific questions about nuts and bolts could ask a question and the AI / ChatGPT layer would drill thorough the data and come up with an answers.
That would be an viable alternative to these very specific ("trivial") threads we're getting.
I mean, if it's even a viable approach. I don't know enough about how AI works to say for sure.
But I know... I'll ask ChatGPT!
Stand by!
--PS
Paul Schatzkin, aka "The Perfesser" – Founder and Host of Fusor.net
Author of The Boy Who Invented Television
"Fusion is not 20 years in the future; it is 60 years in the past and we missed it."
Author of The Boy Who Invented Television
"Fusion is not 20 years in the future; it is 60 years in the past and we missed it."
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Re: Trivial conversations on the forum
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I posed the question:
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Yes, you can add an AI layer to your phpBB database to allow new users to post specific queries and have them answered by AI. Here's an overview of how to achieve this:
1. Export and Preprocess the Data
Extract Data: Export all the data from your phpBB database (posts, threads, user discussions, etc.).
Structure and Clean the Data: Organize the data into a structured format such as JSON, CSV, or a database optimized for text-based queries.
Tag and Categorize: Add metadata or categorize the posts to make it easier for AI to understand and retrieve relevant content.
2. Choose an AI Model
Pretrained Models: Use a large language model like OpenAI's GPT or similar, fine-tuned for your nuclear fusion data.
Custom Fine-Tuning: Fine-tune the model on your extracted and cleaned dataset for domain-specific knowledge.
Embedding Models: Use embeddings to represent your data semantically, enabling intelligent search.
3. Set Up a Query Interface
Frontend Integration: Embed a query box within your phpBB platform. This can be done through a plugin or a custom module.
Backend API: Connect the query box to an AI backend using REST APIs or WebSockets.
User Interaction: When a user posts a query, the AI retrieves, interprets, and answers it based on the stored knowledge.
4. Incorporate AI for Query Responses
Knowledge Base Search: Use AI-powered search (like ElasticSearch with embeddings) to retrieve relevant historical posts or discussions.
Natural Language Responses: Allow the AI to generate detailed, conversational answers based on the retrieved information.
Continuous Learning: Incorporate user feedback to improve AI responses over time.
5. Integrate AI with phpBB
Custom Plugin: Develop or use an existing plugin for phpBB that integrates AI functionalities.
AI Middleware: Build middleware to handle AI queries and responses, connecting phpBB and your AI backend.
Seamless Workflow: Ensure new posts and replies can be used to retrain or update the AI model periodically.
6. Tech Stack Suggestions
AI Frameworks: OpenAI, Hugging Face Transformers, LangChain.
Database: Use a modern database like PostgreSQL, MongoDB, or a vector database like Pinecone for semantic search.
Web Development: PHP for phpBB integration, Python for AI backend, and JavaScript for frontend enhancements.
Hosting: Cloud services like AWS, Azure, or Google Cloud to deploy the AI and support scalability.
7. Additional Features
Ask AI Button: Add a simple button for users to directly query AI without posting on the forum.
Hybrid System: Allow users to both query AI and manually browse threads.
AI Moderation: Use AI to assist in moderating discussions or flagging inaccurate or inappropriate posts.
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Not included in the AI generated answer to the question about adding AI to phpBB is step #8"
8. Consult with a highly trained professional before proceeding.
At least we know it IS possible.
According to AI.
--PS
I posed the question:
- - - -
Yes, you can add an AI layer to your phpBB database to allow new users to post specific queries and have them answered by AI. Here's an overview of how to achieve this:
1. Export and Preprocess the Data
Extract Data: Export all the data from your phpBB database (posts, threads, user discussions, etc.).
Structure and Clean the Data: Organize the data into a structured format such as JSON, CSV, or a database optimized for text-based queries.
Tag and Categorize: Add metadata or categorize the posts to make it easier for AI to understand and retrieve relevant content.
2. Choose an AI Model
Pretrained Models: Use a large language model like OpenAI's GPT or similar, fine-tuned for your nuclear fusion data.
Custom Fine-Tuning: Fine-tune the model on your extracted and cleaned dataset for domain-specific knowledge.
Embedding Models: Use embeddings to represent your data semantically, enabling intelligent search.
3. Set Up a Query Interface
Frontend Integration: Embed a query box within your phpBB platform. This can be done through a plugin or a custom module.
Backend API: Connect the query box to an AI backend using REST APIs or WebSockets.
User Interaction: When a user posts a query, the AI retrieves, interprets, and answers it based on the stored knowledge.
4. Incorporate AI for Query Responses
Knowledge Base Search: Use AI-powered search (like ElasticSearch with embeddings) to retrieve relevant historical posts or discussions.
Natural Language Responses: Allow the AI to generate detailed, conversational answers based on the retrieved information.
Continuous Learning: Incorporate user feedback to improve AI responses over time.
5. Integrate AI with phpBB
Custom Plugin: Develop or use an existing plugin for phpBB that integrates AI functionalities.
AI Middleware: Build middleware to handle AI queries and responses, connecting phpBB and your AI backend.
Seamless Workflow: Ensure new posts and replies can be used to retrain or update the AI model periodically.
6. Tech Stack Suggestions
AI Frameworks: OpenAI, Hugging Face Transformers, LangChain.
Database: Use a modern database like PostgreSQL, MongoDB, or a vector database like Pinecone for semantic search.
Web Development: PHP for phpBB integration, Python for AI backend, and JavaScript for frontend enhancements.
Hosting: Cloud services like AWS, Azure, or Google Cloud to deploy the AI and support scalability.
7. Additional Features
Ask AI Button: Add a simple button for users to directly query AI without posting on the forum.
Hybrid System: Allow users to both query AI and manually browse threads.
AI Moderation: Use AI to assist in moderating discussions or flagging inaccurate or inappropriate posts.
- - -
Not included in the AI generated answer to the question about adding AI to phpBB is step #8"
8. Consult with a highly trained professional before proceeding.
At least we know it IS possible.
According to AI.
--PS
Paul Schatzkin, aka "The Perfesser" – Founder and Host of Fusor.net
Author of The Boy Who Invented Television
"Fusion is not 20 years in the future; it is 60 years in the past and we missed it."
Author of The Boy Who Invented Television
"Fusion is not 20 years in the future; it is 60 years in the past and we missed it."
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Re: Trivial conversations on the forum
The AI is third party service. You need to sign up for an account and then you can send and receive data using their API. Looking at ChatGPT's pricing plan for example there is a $0 plan and then it goes to $20 monthly. I have no idea about the in's and outs of what you would require as far as plans go.
If you are interested in this I can float the idea of you sponsoring the development of an extension to some of the better extension developers. They are usually releasing them for free but for something like this might require a lot of time so it isn't happening for free. It would get published on phpBB.com for anyone to use and you would get a credit line for sponsoring it. No idea on the price but shouldn't be much.
I had "AI" installed on one forum in the early 2000's that used A.L.I.C.E. AI is in quotes because it could only answer questions already in it's database which was enormous. The responses ranged from accurate to humorous. Basically how you would set this up is have a dedicated forum where every post gets response from the AI and/or you just trigger it with @FusorBot at the top of any post.
The one caveat is there is no guarantee of continued support down the line, given something like this would be pretty popular it should be good for at least a few years.
If you are interested in this I can float the idea of you sponsoring the development of an extension to some of the better extension developers. They are usually releasing them for free but for something like this might require a lot of time so it isn't happening for free. It would get published on phpBB.com for anyone to use and you would get a credit line for sponsoring it. No idea on the price but shouldn't be much.
I had "AI" installed on one forum in the early 2000's that used A.L.I.C.E. AI is in quotes because it could only answer questions already in it's database which was enormous. The responses ranged from accurate to humorous. Basically how you would set this up is have a dedicated forum where every post gets response from the AI and/or you just trigger it with @FusorBot at the top of any post.
The one caveat is there is no guarantee of continued support down the line, given something like this would be pretty popular it should be good for at least a few years.