Presidential election results

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Presidential election results

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NO CANDIDATE OR POLITICAL PARTY NAMES OR DISCUSSION ALLOWED. THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL POST. IT IS A DEMONSTRATIVE POST TO SHOW A POINT.

In November, around one half of the people voting will be wrong when they cast their ballots.

There are a variety of reasons. Some are personal, some are beliefs and some are fact based. The point is that nearly 50% of the people will get it wrong, at least in the eyes of the non-winning candidate/party. It will be impossible to convince very many of them otherwise. Their justification will be steadfast.

An interesting term has arisen or at least seems to be used more at that moment. That is an "Under Informed Voter". This was my reason for even mentioning politics but its meaning is very relevant elsewhere.

Under Informed is true in so much of our society be it science, arts, humanities, fusion, etc. It is astonishing to me how many under informed people there are out there but have idea. They think they see it correctly. We all see it with the new nuclear fusion start ups and the big boys. It makes the news, people talk about it, be excited for those of us working on it, etc. But it is rubbish. Spoon fed rubbish.

I just watched a legitimate scientific video replacing air or nitrogen in car tires to increase horsepower and fuel economy. The fellow had the helium and a scale. He measured the weight of the rim and tire when full of air and then when full of helium. There was a 5lb difference in weight. This of course is huge. He has many other good videos that are completely true. What this a ruse to get 24 more HP or did he error? Either way, at least half of the viewers were sold on the idea. Forget about the ultra high effusion rate of helium so when you come out in the morning our tires are flat. lol. He sells it on the fact that helium is so much less dense than air and it sticks.

I have to be honest, I did not do the calculation with different number of moles and the ideal gas law because it is a waste of time. Assume 100g of air. The best you could hope for would be a total vacuum that would only reduce the weight by 100g at best. So where are the 5lbs coming from?

Under informed. Another pandemic in our society. I am looking over the top of my glasses criticizing because I and we all fit that category to a certain extent. Just some more than others.

How does one know what they do not know? Critical thinking can go only so far. I will have to search the internet or ChatGTP for the answer I guess. Satire just in case that last statement was not obvious.
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It is sad, indeed, that there are so many uninformed out there. Yet, they will usually not admit to it. A failure of the educational system coupled with instant access to supposed informed commentary on the internet supports and extends an uninformed society. Quick rinses in physics, be it fusion or radiation will leave many with the feeling that they are informed on this or that part of the sciences.

The abject helplessness of the populace to do for themselves with their hands and minds is key to the death of the useful, helpful, adroit citizen. As the mindset exists, "There is an app for that", so there is a "guy that can do that for me". Guys who can do that are only a tap away on the smartphone. The work they do for the helpless costs money and can be just another tap on the smartphone away as credit card debt in the U.S. grows to stellar levels. Knowledge and abilities we do not possess are covered by money we do not possess. How long can this go on, until a collapse of what once was an active, educated, habile, involved society?

When I was young, there were no free rides. From kindergarten to one's professional life, Failure was a continuous sword of Damocles hung over my generation that was not only present, but accepted as being part of the societal struggle. Some can cut it, others, can't or refuse to join the fray. (1960's..."Tune in, turn on and drop out.") Many of those ex-hippies quickly realized the world did not join them and many are today's business execs and productive citizens.

Remember, all the hippies were baby boomers who drank the kool-aid popularized in a free love, kinder, gentler world so hoped for. The world is and never has been kind or gentle. Life is a struggle. It always has been and always will be. It is filled with failures and successes. Failures are shamed and successes are honored and rewarded. That realization and its personal ownership is what is truly woke! You are cast among dunderheads, the lost, and the useless along with a few good, useful souls. It is your job to shine while among them of fall in line with them, choosing which of the common souls you will be.

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A little while ago I posted how I was annoyed with some internet people allowing nutcases to use their hugely followed platforms to tell people falsehoods and complete nonsense (turns out these alleged "fact checkers" used by a certain such internet leader employs people who's real job is to simply find any source that will confirm the speaker's claims!) No wonder the public is confused (here I do not feel the people believing this stuff are at fault for the overall confusion.)

However, this free speech idea does enable others (to remain nameless) to lie and post false claims that contradict official government facts and/or easy to confirm facts. No one is entitled to their own set of alleged "facts". Free speech requires people to be responsible, and not to exploit legitimate confusion for profit or gain when real harm occurs. That is where I draw a line and hope most would agree.

Relative to the vast amount of false information out there I do have issues with the public when they refuse to look at all the facts. Doing "your own research" does not mean read only people that agree with your new facts nor discount peer reviewed research. The Earth is not flat, vaccines are essential for good health and life can and will hand you terrible things.

For me and IMO, the failure of too many people to accept a new idea before checking to see if it passes the most basic known facts (this certainly includes physicist; cough, singularities ;) ) is not acceptable - at least for people out of HS.



Post edit: One should vote on the issues they support. This post by me is not meant to support or not support any one running relative to this topic content.
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Achiever's madness; when enough is still not enough. ---FS
We have to stop looking at the world through our physical eyes. The universe is NOT what we see. It is the quantum world that is real. The rest is just an electron illusion. ---FS
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