Sabine speaks on advancing AI. Will it solve fusion?

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Sabine speaks on advancing AI. Will it solve fusion?

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Will AI be the lucky donkey? Let's hope not. Discovery, up to now, has been a human thing. This human thing has been via mechanical experimentation or just lucky dockey "stumble ins" while doing something else. The key here is doing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZVngnr8KN4

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Re: Sabine speaks on advancing AI. Will it solve fusion?

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Not too worried that AI will have any real use in primary discovery in science - data crunching for patterns is where it is currently most useful and agree that any further progress is some years away.

Still, with some recent polls (Gallup) I worry far more on the lack of intelligence of much of the American public rather then the intelligence of computers: a staggering 56% think of the people in the poll believe that the economy is shrinking - note we'd had over three years of strong to even very strong GDP growth; 52% thought the unemployment rate is at a 50 year high when it is at a 50 year low! Then the laughable poll that said 49% of the people believed the stock market is also at record lows - yet we have had years of record growth in the stock market and its is far above anything from previous years (and an all time high.)

It is beyond unacceptable that so many people believe such obviously false information - information that is trivial to find yet these people are ignorant of such simple facts. Worse, this was not generated by AI (I wish!) The real threat to this country and its science is the fake news that puts profits over reality - one reason over 100 k people died needlessly in the covid pandemic here in this county and some believe its likely reach 300,000! (death rate over expected value*.)

Science is useless w/o a fact based structure but also, science will falter if the American public is fed such false information and believes such outright lies. Experts are undermined and this actually leads to significant deaths - I find this appalling. The internet and cable has created separate world views - one of facts and one of propaganda based lies and a "house divided will not stand" (ok, I stole from the best.)

People must be made aware that they need to really check all sources before using information - even if the false information agrees with their world view. This is the greatest danger to science and our society and needs to be considered whenever looking at overall risks.

This, tragedy, is the most likely number of preventable deaths or deaths due to mis-information
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Re: Sabine speaks on advancing AI. Will it solve fusion?

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Speaking of fake or crazy information and specifically Rogan (really, really does need that treatment), Dr. Hossenfelder strikes this very issue. Maybe she reads the fusor forum?

While this is a rather extreme "Tin Hat" post by this Rogan character, that he even put this on his show encapsulates so much that is wrong in both our media and the world in general.

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZegwJVC_Pc
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