Aneutronic fusion questions...

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Re: Aneutronic fusion questions...

Post by Spencer DePue » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:39 am

I've got an idea that could possibly work. (correct me if I'm wrong) If I get ten 8 volt batteries with 15 amps a piece, put them in parallel so the amps would become 150 amps and the volts would remain 8 volts, then connect them to 10 piezoelectric transformers which are rated for 10 KV output per transformer, and put those units in series, would I have 100000 volts and .12 amps given that the transformer step down/ step up ratio is 1:1250 / 1250:1?

1. Would the amps be sufficient for any form of fusion?

2.Would the volts be sufficient for any form of fusion?

here is a diagram.
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Re: Aneutronic fusion questions...

Post by Spencer DePue » Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:43 am

woops.. thats diagram is the non-updated one here is the updated one..
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Re: Aneutronic fusion questions...

Post by Richard Hester » Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:10 am

U of W folks also used 0.001" of lead in between the detector and the hot, cruel world of the fusor, which goes a long way towards keeping the bad stuff out (electrons, mainly, but other ionic rabble as well). As has been mentioned earlier, a drift tube with some magnets will also help. However, if U. of W. can operate their nasty multi-kilowatt fusor with a 0.001" lead shield to protect their detector, our more modest efforts should do ok.

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Re: Aneutronic fusion questions...

Post by Frank Sanns » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:01 am

You are not even close. May I suggest that you read up on some jr high intro to electricity before posting again. You are not even close to a circuit that could provide ANY usable power for a demo fusor let alone a neutron producing fusor. Just the word boron beyond that is simply absurd and laughable. Get a grip before posting again.

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Re: Aneutronic fusion questions...

Post by Carl Willis » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:05 am

Spencer:

I would appreciate some better organization in this thread. We began with your mention of an ambitious pyroelectric fusor concept, now you're talking about piezoelectric transformers (entirely different technology, and at this level of specificity needs to move to an independent thread in the High Voltage forum).

I think you should go post a thread on piezoelectric transformers over there. It is a novel direction in the fusor world, and it is interesting. While you are considering what to post in the HV forum about your interest in this subject, consider two things: (1) do piezoelectric transformers run on DC battery power? and (2) if you were going to do experiments on piezo transformers, where would you start? I doubt all this banter and wishful thinking about kilowatts of power and ganging up a bunch of car batteries is sufficiently grounded in reality to be helpful. Are you making appropriate use of Google and of literature searches...?

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Re: Aneutronic fusion questions...

Post by Dustin » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:01 am

The responses so far seem rather harsh,

The piezo transformers idea has a little merit worth another peek at.

The piezo transformers as part of a pre-made assembly for ccfl or whatever will run off DC

If each is set up with a CW multiplier and a battery you could stack these in series to get 100kv
but you would need good isolation between batteries / CCFL assemblies.

Another problem is how do you turn them on which would require opto isolation because if you turn on the top one, its battery sits at 90kv.

In any case you would be very limited in current so would be better for a linear accelerator perhaps.
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Re: Aneutronic fusion questions...

Post by Starfire » Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:23 am

Hi Richard - how else to do it on a realistic scale? - The problem is the same - how to detect the reaction?

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