Tungsten Cathode, no Welding Required (Rosenstiel grid)

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Re: Tungsten Cathode, no Welding Required

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Adam, You cannot have any sharp edges anywhere in the central grid area, including those knife edges on the mechano piece.

Everything needs to have a large radius with no knife edges on sheet metal, no points on nuts, bolts or wire ends, No protrusion, no matter how small, outside of the grid sphere. Every thing that is not GRID should, ideally, be shielded or insulated against field emission.

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Re: Tungsten Cathode, no Welding Required

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Jon - what is material and source for ' HV feedthrough stalk has an OD of 0.156" ' Please.
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Re: Tungsten Cathode, no Welding Required

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John,

Here's a link to the HV feedthrough I have. (eBay, what else?)

http://isi-seal.com/pdf/sec-4-4.pdf

Scroll down about 3/4's to model # 9442013. This should clear things up. (BTW, I'm refering to the center conductor as the feedthrough stalk).

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How did you actually make the rings with accuracy? I can't seem to get things right and things will not wind up fitting into the tubing. Could the problem be that the tubing is only 0.1" ID?

Anybody try a woven grid using finer tungsten wire? It seems like a possibility. If so, how was it done?
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Brian,

I imagine the tube having an ID of 0.1" is going to make things a bit more difficult, if not impossible.

To wind the wire I did a few test winds on various sized mandrels until I found a mandrel that produced loops close to the grid diameter I wanted to end up with. I then cut out the loops, flattened and "tweaked" them to size and then bent back the "ears".

FYI, the grid I show in the photos was probably my 8th attempt, so it does take some practice. (What grid doesn’t)?

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I actually show this process on Fusor tape #2. I have also posted on the method before. It sounds like Jon took it to heart. This is the way jewelers make perfect circles and rings for jewelry repair and custom work.

1. Wrap multiple turns around a mandrel (12 or more)

2. Let the wire spring open of it own accord. You now have circles a bit larger than the mandrel.

3. Using diagonal cutters, cut the rings out leaving whatever overlap you need to complete the circle either by overlap welding or butt joint fusing or soldering.

In the above fashion, you have made 12, perfectly uniform rings in under 3 minutes that are ready to use. Nautrally, they can be slightly opened or closed to make slight adjustments for slightly oversized or undersized rings to fit together. Regardless, the hard work of forming good rings is done.

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Re: Tungsten Cathode, UPDATE

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The original grid (as shown in my first post) finally died after two years in service. The outermost grid loop worked loose and had moved away from the other three loops 5 to 10 mm. This made the fusor very erratic; it became almost impossible to find a voltage / current combination that would allow stable operation.

New grid time: The new cathode is the same basic design as before, with a couple of improvements. (Hopefully they’re improvements)!
1. I managed to do a much better job of grinding the slots into the end of the SS tube by holding the tube in my lathe’s chuck (marked off in 45 degree increments) and then carefully grinding the slots with a tool-post mounted Dremel tool.
2. Before bending the grid retaining tabs over I gently tapped a snug fitting piece stainless steel (the threaded portion of a 4-40 screw) down into the end of the stalk to hold the tungsten grid loops tightly against the inside of the stalk. This made the final “tweaking” of the loops into alignment much easier and hopefully permanent. See attached pic.

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A very fine piece of work, Jon. Let the inventiveness of man be consecrated to his continued advancement.

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