Has anybody tried replacing the grid with a target?
Has anybody tried replacing the grid with a target?
Since I am a noob, I figured I'd ask. Has anybody tried running a fusor with a block of Lithium (or some other fusile material) instead of a grid, or coated the grid with a fusile material?
Re: Has anybody tried replacing the grid with a target?
Hi:
Its being worked on.
Its being worked on.
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Re: Has anybody tried replacing the grid with a target?
About a year ago, I electroplated a stainless steel inner grid with palladium. I loaded it up with deuterium prior to a run. I saw no difference and now it is obvious that the the losses of the fusor are hundreds (thousands) of times greater than the deuterons that strike the grids.
Lithium deuteride is a good choice for target material but then the fusor becomes a simple collider. Also, lithium deuteride reacts instantly with moisture in the air so there is no easy way with a fusor setups to have a fresh surface of lithium available for targeting. Just waiting for the fusor to pump down, the surface would be changed. You would just be hitting the hydroxide surface and never get to the lithium.
Frank S.
Lithium deuteride is a good choice for target material but then the fusor becomes a simple collider. Also, lithium deuteride reacts instantly with moisture in the air so there is no easy way with a fusor setups to have a fresh surface of lithium available for targeting. Just waiting for the fusor to pump down, the surface would be changed. You would just be hitting the hydroxide surface and never get to the lithium.
Frank S.
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Re: Has anybody tried replacing the grid with a target?
Again, a target that is perfectly deuterated and deuteron bombarded in a fusor type chamber is just a simple spheriac accelerator. Ho-hum....
Inorder to equal the fusion you get in a 30kev simple fusor- collider it would demand an input voltage of nearly 100kev as a spheriac. All the real amateur fusion advantages of the fusor are thrown out the window in a target system.
Richard Hull
Inorder to equal the fusion you get in a 30kev simple fusor- collider it would demand an input voltage of nearly 100kev as a spheriac. All the real amateur fusion advantages of the fusor are thrown out the window in a target system.
Richard Hull
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Fusion is the energy of the future....and it always will be
The more complex the idea put forward by the poor amateur, the more likely it will never see embodiment
Fusion is the energy of the future....and it always will be
The more complex the idea put forward by the poor amateur, the more likely it will never see embodiment
Re: Has anybody tried replacing the grid with a target?
Hi Richard:
I am doing the collider that you illustrated a while back...two ion guns with a grid between. Deuterium to deuterium collisions out produce solid target every time.
it is just for grins.
Happy Fusoring!
LarryLeins
Fusor Tech
I am doing the collider that you illustrated a while back...two ion guns with a grid between. Deuterium to deuterium collisions out produce solid target every time.
it is just for grins.
Happy Fusoring!
LarryLeins
Fusor Tech
Re: Has anybody tried replacing the grid with a target?
Thanks for all the replies.
It seems like the lithium oxidizing and the increased voltage and the oxidization should not be that hard to deal with, but if the losses are primarily caused by other mechanisms, then it won't be worthwhile.
It seems like the lithium oxidizing and the increased voltage and the oxidization should not be that hard to deal with, but if the losses are primarily caused by other mechanisms, then it won't be worthwhile.
Re: Has anybody tried replacing the grid with a target?
Isn't the SHIVA Project supposed to do something like this with lasers?
Also, a possible hazard here. If you place a millimeter sized sphere of LiD in the exact center and pump down a deuterium atmosphere inside the fusor, you may indeed achieve the result that SHIVA did not. Problem is the thing may explode with a force equal to about 9lb of TnT...
Also, a possible hazard here. If you place a millimeter sized sphere of LiD in the exact center and pump down a deuterium atmosphere inside the fusor, you may indeed achieve the result that SHIVA did not. Problem is the thing may explode with a force equal to about 9lb of TnT...
Re: Has anybody tried replacing the grid with a target?
Yes, that would be a problem for anyone close by, but all in the name of science!!