Fusor 2020
- Mark Rowley
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Re: Fusor 2020
First run with the cooling maze was a resounding success. Following a 15 minute sustained run at a roughly estimated neutron TIER of 1.3E+6 it never peaked over 87F (30.5C). Cooling fluid was water with Rislone Hy-per Cool Super Coolant. As of now, the coolant is only recirculating within a 2 gallon reservoir with no radiators or extra cooling system. Adding a couple fan cooled computer-type radiators (as in Jon’s system) is something I’ll probably employ in the future.
In addition to these changes I opted to replace the Yellowjacket HVAC pump with a much quieter and more efficient Welch DuoSeal 1402. Being a higher capacity pump, it’ll rough down to almost 9mTorr in a couple minutes. The Yellowjacket could rough the system down to around 12-13 after about 5-10 minutes. Performance wise with the fusor it’s negligible but at least the lab is a once again a quiet place during operation.
One other bit of good news is the fact that I was able to keep the HDPE moderator in the exact configuration and distance as it was when BTI calibrated a month or so back. I’ll double check calibration in the next few days to see if the water in the two mazes have made any significant differences with moderation.
Mark Rowley
In addition to these changes I opted to replace the Yellowjacket HVAC pump with a much quieter and more efficient Welch DuoSeal 1402. Being a higher capacity pump, it’ll rough down to almost 9mTorr in a couple minutes. The Yellowjacket could rough the system down to around 12-13 after about 5-10 minutes. Performance wise with the fusor it’s negligible but at least the lab is a once again a quiet place during operation.
One other bit of good news is the fact that I was able to keep the HDPE moderator in the exact configuration and distance as it was when BTI calibrated a month or so back. I’ll double check calibration in the next few days to see if the water in the two mazes have made any significant differences with moderation.
Mark Rowley
- Richard Hull
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Re: Fusor 2020
Great report and I am glad you are running cool. I used a yellow Jacket from 1997-2003. It could hit 8 micros on fusor II , but with the increased volume in fusor III, it hit 10 or12 microns in a few minutes. Ultimately, like you, I swore off direct drives and went for the much more soothing lup-lup lup of a belt drive, slow winder. Great work.
The key is that, once calibrated, never move the moderator or significantly alter the positions of any major physical object around or near the moderator. Fusor IV was frozen in space 2004-2019. Right now, as I am un-calibrated I have complete freedom to just mess the entire system up and introduce or remove anything as it pleases me. I really do like this, as I can experiment and allow the 3He tell me whether I have made a quantitative improvement. With the silver activator buried in the moderator, I can always prove I am doing fusion over and above any questions regarding the 3He counter which we all know is showing fusion is taking place. Still.......Dead silver made radioactive in a few minutes always shuts up any doubters related to electronic neutron counting instrumentation. (Not that anyone has doubted the 3He heralding fusion.)
Richard Hull
The key is that, once calibrated, never move the moderator or significantly alter the positions of any major physical object around or near the moderator. Fusor IV was frozen in space 2004-2019. Right now, as I am un-calibrated I have complete freedom to just mess the entire system up and introduce or remove anything as it pleases me. I really do like this, as I can experiment and allow the 3He tell me whether I have made a quantitative improvement. With the silver activator buried in the moderator, I can always prove I am doing fusion over and above any questions regarding the 3He counter which we all know is showing fusion is taking place. Still.......Dead silver made radioactive in a few minutes always shuts up any doubters related to electronic neutron counting instrumentation. (Not that anyone has doubted the 3He heralding fusion.)
Richard Hull
Progress may have been a good thing once, but it just went on too long. - Yogi Berra
Fusion is the energy of the future....and it always will be
The more complex the idea put forward by the poor amateur, the more likely it will never see embodiment
Fusion is the energy of the future....and it always will be
The more complex the idea put forward by the poor amateur, the more likely it will never see embodiment
- Mark Rowley
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Re: Fusor 2020
A very good point Richard. Totally plays into why I’m having so much fun with activation lately.
After a second test run this afternoon I noticed an annoying backscatter problem. Easily fixable but moderator configuration will undoubtedly get altered. If the aging BTI’s fail beforehand, I’ll be just as happy with activation numbers and gamma spec.
Mark Rowley
After a second test run this afternoon I noticed an annoying backscatter problem. Easily fixable but moderator configuration will undoubtedly get altered. If the aging BTI’s fail beforehand, I’ll be just as happy with activation numbers and gamma spec.
Mark Rowley
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Re: Fusor 2020
Before resuming the BoT2021 project, I’ve decided to try something unique with this fusor.
Reviewing old disassembly photos from last year, I came across the beam impact “lozenge” images from the inside wall.
The lozenges expectedly line up with each of the 6 “star mode” beam radials from the grid.
Since I’m making some deuterated titanium targets for the BoT2021 project, I figure I’ll try installing several in the fusor before it’s temporarily disassembled. Placement will be on the chamber wall in the same location as the lozenge impact marks where they will serve as deuterated targets.
If the ion beams have any type of BoT characteristics as indicated by fusors with cylindrical grids, this might result with a substantial increase in neutron production… or it just may fail miserably.
Either way, I’ll update with the results soon. And of course this is all incumbent on the success of the deuterizing apparatus.
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Mark Rowley
Reviewing old disassembly photos from last year, I came across the beam impact “lozenge” images from the inside wall.
The lozenges expectedly line up with each of the 6 “star mode” beam radials from the grid.
Since I’m making some deuterated titanium targets for the BoT2021 project, I figure I’ll try installing several in the fusor before it’s temporarily disassembled. Placement will be on the chamber wall in the same location as the lozenge impact marks where they will serve as deuterated targets.
If the ion beams have any type of BoT characteristics as indicated by fusors with cylindrical grids, this might result with a substantial increase in neutron production… or it just may fail miserably.
Either way, I’ll update with the results soon. And of course this is all incumbent on the success of the deuterizing apparatus.
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Mark Rowley
- Jim Kovalchick
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Re: Fusor 2020
Mark,
I recommend using small Ti targets. I used large pieces of it in mine and found pressure control became difficult. I was also using a ring grid then, so perhaps your multi beam arrangement may help avoid big temperature induced pressure changes.
Jim K
I recommend using small Ti targets. I used large pieces of it in mine and found pressure control became difficult. I was also using a ring grid then, so perhaps your multi beam arrangement may help avoid big temperature induced pressure changes.
Jim K
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Re: Fusor 2020
"Let the experiment be done" Benjamin Franklin
Richard Hull
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Progress may have been a good thing once, but it just went on too long. - Yogi Berra
Fusion is the energy of the future....and it always will be
The more complex the idea put forward by the poor amateur, the more likely it will never see embodiment
Fusion is the energy of the future....and it always will be
The more complex the idea put forward by the poor amateur, the more likely it will never see embodiment
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Re: Fusor 2020
Jim, definitely going small. The furnace will only host a maximum size of 15x40mm. I’ll be using 0.203mm sheet and each target will probably be 15mm sq, possibly smaller. Installation will utilize a simple slide-in low profile aluminum sleeve (or similar).
First run will probably utilize a single target. If it works, one would be sufficient to identify any positive results.
Mark Rowley
First run will probably utilize a single target. If it works, one would be sufficient to identify any positive results.
Mark Rowley
- Tonya Fisher
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Re: Fusor 2020
Hello, I'm thinking about making fusor at home like a student project, so could you help me a littleฅ^•ﻌ•^ฅ Could you tell what hight-voltage environment you used and send a paper plan of the fuser. And how do you regularl gas pressure? Sorry for stupid questions (they can be for professional) and my English (it's yep not the second my language). Best wishes, Tonya
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Tonya, you did an intro and have followed all the rules. But its best to create your own thread to ask such a question and not use someone else's topic thread for that purpose. Also, read the FAQ's before asking questions since most answers are to be found there.
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Oh, I did that before reading FAQ. I m sorry I haven't read the rules that time. So, now I have basic information about fusors. Thank you