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Migration Update 190830

Post by Paul_Schatzkin » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:34 pm

Hello, 'tis I again...

This morning/afternoon, Andrew, Frank and I spent about 2 hours in a Webex/Conference call ironing out some of the bugs that have sprung up in the wake of our total site migration.

Some of you may, for example, have noticed that some posts for various assortments of pornography found their way into the boards.

What you would not have noticed is that since we went live on the new servers, there have been hundreds of bogus new member registrations - many of them from web addresses ending in "dot-xyz" or, perhaps more perniciously, "dot-ru." It is unknown how these new "members" were able to get through the somewhat rigorous protocols that we require of actual new members. It's the Internets, ya know? It's sometimes a wonder that any of this works; "to retrieve password, enter password."

We have done our best to a) comb through those dubious new member regs and delete them and b) strengthen the protocols for new membership in a renewed effort to fend off the bots. Time will tell how successful those efforts have been.

In the meantime, if you are a legitimate new member, and have managed to find this post while wondering why your registration credentials are not letting your sign into the site, bear with us; we may have deleted your registration in error, in which case you will have to re-create your registration.

If this is the case, we apologize for the inconvenience.

On the other hand, if your registration email ended in ".xyz" or ".ru" then sorry.... not sorry.

And yes, I know there are many fine people in Russia and they are welcome here. They should have no trouble getting through the protocols.

Next?

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Re: FUSOR.NET v4 is now LIVE!

Post by Joe Gayo » Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:56 pm

Jon Rosenstiel's posts about his cube fusor seem to be missing ...

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Re: FUSOR.NET v4 is now LIVE!

Post by Frank Sanns » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:58 pm

We were taking backups often since the beginning of August up until the time that MT corrupted our database there and the old Fusor site went down.

Before we actually moved the site, the old site was not working for around a week starting around August 15th. After that, the backups were only half there. If Jon or anybody else posted on or after August 15th, that data was not available to us and assumed loss since we never had control of it.

Anybody that posted anything on or after August 15th is encouraged to repost and include their pictures now that we are at our new landing site.

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Re: FUSOR.NET v4 is now LIVE!

Post by Frank Sanns » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:10 pm

There are some other changes that you might notice. For one, the width of the forum should now fill the width of the window and not be picture framed.

Quick links are now accessible again without having to log in.

Old bookmarks should work as we made sure the structure was constant with the old site.

The search function should also be doing a better job.

Paul's main blog and introduction page is not yet up but it will be coming soon. In the meantime, enjoy his retro under construction gif from three decades ago!

The original fusor posts from 1998 through 2000 are on the site here too and I will put them into a space once we get some more bugs out and take a break.

You will also see that I have logged everybody out of the forum. This was a necessary security step to sever any and all old connections that may have been present with the persistent login that was set out at 6 months and a year. Sure it is the lazy man's way in but the risk is just too high. In a few more days of working out the bugs here, I think a 30 day persistent login is a good compromise.

We are still the subject of malicious spam attacks and some other activity but we feel confident that we can get things under control on this host. Hopefully gone are the hundreds of dollars of overages each month.

Let's hope the worst of it is behind us.

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Re: FUSOR.NET v4 is now LIVE!

Post by Mark Rowley » Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:09 pm

Any thoughts on adding a "report this post" button?
I run about 8 groups that are considerably more active so my influx of spam is considerably higher than here. However, it's actually quite easy to manage with the "report this post" feature on the main site. Once activated, I get a very unobtrusive text message where I can instantly delete the message and if necessary, remove the member. I cant imagine it being a headache to the fusor.net admins. Tbh, receiving a text message from select family members is much worse! lol

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Re: FUSOR.NET v4 is now LIVE!

Post by Frank Sanns » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:12 pm

The exclamation mark at the top right of the post is such a button. It should be right next to the " quote button. Click it and we get a report. Many people have helped us by using it over the past years.

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Re: FUSOR.NET v4 is now LIVE!

Post by Alex Aitken » Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:51 pm

Congratulations to Andrew, Frank and Paul for the fourth incarnation of the forum.

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Re: FUSOR.NET v4 is now LIVE!

Post by ian_krase » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:30 am

I wonder if the CAPTCHA involving fusion was too simple -- once a bot-master figures out the answer, they can program it into as many thousands of bots as they want.

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Re: FUSOR.NET v4 is now LIVE!

Post by Andrew Robinson » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:37 am

Yes I agree Ian. I'm in the process of working on a few new options including some proof of concept fun stuff.
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Re: FUSOR.NET v4 is now LIVE!

Post by Rex Allers » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:08 pm

[Edit: I edited a couple of the links in my included examples as they didn't point to the exact post I was referencing.]

Thanks for bringing us to a new home.
Sorry to report that I see a major problem.

They say a picture is worth 1000 words.

Seems that in the recent move, many many images were lost (millions? of words equivalent)
When not missing, most moved images appear or behave differently than before the forum relocation.

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I really hope there is a way we can recover the many missing image files. They are missing recently and also randomly a long time back.

It would also be nice if existing image files from old transferred data could be made to show as reduced files in-line again.
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With Joe Gayo's recent great news about his latest work, I was motivated to go back to his earlier posts. He started posting only around the beginning of 2019. From my browsing, it appears that all of the images in his posts, prior to the site move, have been lost.

I started looking at posts back many years -- many images remain in a less than ideal presentation way, but some seem to now be lost. I haven't detected a pattern between lost, not lost.

Here I attempt to provide more details about what I am seeing with images in random threads as we stand now in our post-site-move state.

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New posts seem fine. As we saw before the move, putting a big pic into a post results in a smaller version showing in the thread message (usually inline) and if it is large, the smaller version can be clicked-on to open a view of the full sized image. Since the move, new posts continue to work this way.

Here is a recent example:
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=12934#p84064
Homemade Cathode Ray Tube
Post by Jacob Shin - Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:11 am

1st image occurs after
"Here's my setup: "
A reduced size image occurs in the thread. If you click on the image (It is a link) a full sized image opens. In this case the image is fairly large (4032 x 3024).

So this post-move new post seems to have the included images behaving the way we would expect and how they worked pre-move.

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Looking back at posts from before the site move, those with images almost always now look like this:

inline stub boxes.jpg
inline stub boxes.jpg (31 KiB) Viewed 1832 times
Those small boxes containing image file names used to be a place in the message where the image was displayed.

On those filename boxes, if one clicks on them one of two things can happen.

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1) Clicking on the file name box -- the best result is that the image file opens up. This is the same as what happened when an inline reduced size image was clicked on.

It would be nice if, after the move, the in-line smaller version still existed, but this way to get to get to the original uploaded image in the message is not as readable and helpful as before but not a terrible loss of info change.

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2) Clicking on the file name box -- the worst result is that the image file does not exist. This message is seen, "The selected attachment does not exist anymore."

I hope there is a way to recover these missing image links, otherwise a huge amount of forum information has been lost.

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3) In a few cases of images in pre-move posts, it seems they do display images in-line in the post. In all the cases of this that I have seen, the image is small (say 800 x 600) and therefore did not require the image reduction for in-line versions of larger image files.

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Here are some example links of these issues.
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Example from within 2019 prior to move

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12826&start=10#p83461
Re: Joe Gayo's lab tour
Post by Joe Gayo - Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:43 pm

"
... and the results were all consistent within 10% (n/sec) and the same operating conditions.

IMG_1462_sm.jpg
Detector Setup

IMG_1463_sm.jpg
12.7cm, 51bub, 5 second exposure

20M_06162019.PNG
Calculated Results
"
Result:
all of the above images seem to be lost
clicking on them results in...
"The selected attachment does not exist anymore."


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from a 2016 example

3 files are now not shown inline but they open if clicked on ---

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=12189&p=79619#p79621
Re: Vacuum pump rebuild
Post by Rex Allers - Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:16 am

"
Next three images that should have been inserted.

01 Case Open Sludge 1.jpg

17 Clean Pump Inside.jpg

21 Cleaned Case 2.jpg
"

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Later in the same thread

6 files attached
not shown inline
-- clicking on these now gets...
"The selected attachment does not exist anymore."

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=12189&p=79619#p79644
Re: Vacuum pump rebuild
Post by Tyler Meagher - Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:50 pm

"
Attachments

pump assembled.jpg
The pump and coupler

pump motor interface.jpg
Top view of pump

pump first second split.jpg
First and second stages split

pump disassembled.JPG
Pump disassembled

pump second stage.jpg
Second stage chamber

pump first stage.jpg
First stage chamber
"

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old 2012 thread with images that do show inline in thread
(but images are small 800 x 600) (maybe why they show inline?)

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4231&p=26938#p26939
Re: D8A pump rebuild advice
Post by richnormand - Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:12 pm

"
Attachments

PC282489 (Medium).JPG
PC282489 (Medium).JPG (61.97 KiB) Viewed 1285 times

PC282488 (Medium).JPG
PC282488 (Medium).JPG (100.75 KiB) Viewed 1285 times
"

That's a lot of stuff. Hope I was clear enough to explain the problems or issues as I see them.
Ask if anything doesn't make sense or needs more info.
Rex Allers

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