The device that I built

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Re: The device that I built

Post by Quantum » Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:29 pm

Your not going to start evading questions again, are you, Carl.

In the nine months or so that I've been on this site, I don't recall you posting on any experimental work.

I've done the basic research, and I'm now building a system. As I've said before, recent progress has been slow, due to working away, for a company that produces ion etch and vapour deposition systems.

I only took the job to further my research into plasma technology.

I'll also be moving later this month, but I'm still collecting components for my system.

If you don't have anything constructive to say.....(I can't believe I'm being dragged into this again)

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Re: The device that I built

Post by Carl Willis » Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:46 pm

>Your not going to start evading questions again, are you, Carl.

What questions? Since when has this thread been about me? If you have questions about what I do, either here, or professionally, or whatever, you can figure that out with the same resources you keep getting told to use on 99.9% of your other inquiries. If you have further questions that are particular to what I do and don't concern anyone else, you can email them to me. You know how to do that, because you have a history of sending me flame mail.

I think you probably ought to just admit what's obvious from your accusations, and reconcile yourself with the fact that you don't know me.

>I don't recall you posting

That's more like it! Glad we got that cleared up.


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Re: The device that I built

Post by Quantum » Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:59 pm

Carl said

"Your own statements on record show that you have no understanding whatsoever of what I do."

Then what do you mean by the above statement?

I understand you work for a company that supplies small accelerators. Correct me if I'm mistaken. I've worked on larger accelerators myself. I now build plasma systems, and I've shared plenty of 'tips' on here.

I don't know everything about ion sources, but I'm learning.

I am, however, an expert when it comes to stainless steel.

Also, I don't consider a year to be an excessively long time to spend researching fusors before I build one.

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OK, That's Enough

Post by Paul_Schatzkin » Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:13 pm

>>...Nazi tesla engines...<<

>>>...God, this forum has gone to hell in a freaking handbasket over the last year.<<<

Urgh. Is this really what things have come down to? Needless to say (well, maybe not...) seeing this whole contentious line of discourse erupting again discourages me greatly.

I have just spent the better part of the past year extracting myself from an densely convoluted parallel universe where facts are fiction and fiction is facts and nobody really gives a rip whether the two are ever separated. All that time, I've thought of this forum as a beacon of reason, built on a solid foundation of empirical evidence with an a occasional sprinkling of flights of fancy -- but always coming back to the fundamental principal of.... "show me."

I personally am at a point right now -- given the turn of not only a new year but a new decade (depending on how you count to ten...) -- and I find myself purging a lot of things that have not served me in the recent past and so offer little pretense of any promise in the future. You know, the old saw about " doing the same thing an expecting different results..."?

Granted, I have not been an active participant in this space for some time. There are a lot of reasons for that and perhaps I will explore them at some time in the future when the dust from my other recent travails settles. In the meantime, I continue to gladly and willingly host this site at my expense, which is not exorbitant but is not nothing, either. And then there are the times when I have to do some administrative chores -- like deleting the sort of threads that this one seems to be turning into. That all goes with the territory, in which I continue to have an ongoing if not particularly active interest.

So at at time when I am seriously trying to decide what in my life has purpose "going forward" and what deserves to be jettisoned, it is disheartening to come here and discover that there is still an inclination for the discussion here to veer off from its usual constructive tone in to sniping accusations and snarky commentary.

All of the preceding brings me to a simple three word conclusion, which I direct at no one in particular and -- and at precisely those individuals who at times demonstrate a slant toward trivial and contentious word-play.

Three words: "Knock It Off."

OK, Happy New Year,

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P.S. Whoever posted the 'Nazi tesla engine' business, I'm sure you believe what you believe, and that's your right, but frankly I have had my fill of such speculations for a lifetime. What does Joseph Farrell call it, "circumstantial physics"? What a load of bat-shit. Not on my site, fella.

So, unless you've got something you can actually SHOW ME, (you know, like most of the people here can show me their fusion experiments, however low-yield they may be), I respectfully (but not patiently) ask that you take such statements elsewhere. There are plenty of places on the Internets that welcome such speculation. This is site is NOT one of them. 'Nuff said?
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Re: The device that I built

Post by Chris64Strev » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:00 pm

Here is the video of my latest experiment. Not much happens as it is a spent tube. I cannot afford new ones. It does show a burst of power during the ten minute run.

I did another experiment this evening and here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UlcNwKMHvc
This was done with low pressure hydrogen. The effect is weakening as it is a spent tube.

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Re: The device that I built

Post by Chris64Strev » Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:28 pm

I did the experiment with a deuterium spectral tube excited by high voltage as well as the rf field.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6Q9bBfqHOA

When I uploaded the video to U tube I could only get 56 seconds to load and that took 9 hours to upload on a 100 MBts cable line indicating that a very large file had been generated containing a huge number of errors. This indicates that radiation was being received by the digital camera. The gieger counter did show strong activity but that does not show neutrons and that amount of activity does not normally affect the camera so it looks like a large count of neutrons were generated that effected the camera indicating the fusion was going on.

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Re: The device that I built

Post by Tyler Christensen » Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:59 pm

It is absolutely incredibly unlikely that neutrons would cause a digital video camera to generate an excessively large file that still contains all the video data (whereas there are dozens of reasons that the video may have taken quite a while to transmit despite a fast internet connection). This is zero proof of neutrons. You'll need to get a better detector to make any claim that anyone will believe regarding neutron production.

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Re: The device that I built

Post by Carl Willis » Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:08 pm

>This indicates that radiation was being received by the digital camera.

>a large count of neutrons were generated that effected the camera indicating the fusion was going on.

These conclusions are not supported by the experiment, nor are they supported by a common-sense, informed background in the subject matter. They are uncritically pulled out of thin air.

The poster persistently refuses to consider or acknowledge mundane and simple alternatives to fusion, neutrons, radiation, etc. that can readily explain the RF issues, camera problems, etc. offered in evidence. This is a pattern, and it is a pattern of abuse.

Having reached such a dead end long ago, I'm in favor of terminating this thread with extreme prejudice. Fusor.net ought to remain a venue for reality-based discussions and should not be an open podium for persistently unscientific offerings. There's room to be open-minded, but there's no place for obstinate hogwash.

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Re: The device that I built

Post by lutzhoffman » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:13 pm

Hello:

I think that everyone would be best served here to review their own internal approach to the issue of fusion.

Yes experiments can reveal wonderful things, which are sometimes not explained or even predicted by the theory, but to be fair, this only happens when the theory is incomplete, or flawed in some way.

When a theory is pursued on "faith", or on a "belief", then the same parameters apply, which hold true for faith, and religion. If we choose to go here, then we need to apply what I call the "faith insanity test", which can then be used to further define the issue, and to restore a productive path.

The point at which religion, or faith, crosses the line, separating sane, from insane, can be simply defined as:

"When faith is maintained, in the face of proof to the contrary "

So if proof can be found, and it can then be supported, it stands, if not then it falls into the dust bin of history, and it deserves no further consideration.

I suggest to everyone to redirect your efforts into finding proof, and support, this is a most noble quest. At the same time however, do keep your mind open to proof to the contrary, which can be a scientists greatest gift, because it helps provide direction, in the path of discovery. I am sure that history is littered with brilliant minds, which were spent in trying to find the corner, from within the sphere.

Good Luck to All : )

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Re: The device that I built

Post by Carl Willis » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:34 pm

I think I'm in agreement with you, Lutz, but the guy has seen critique of his unscientific, conclusion-heavy presentation time, time, and time again. Paul, the moderator, has warned him.

At this point it's a matter of executive removal, because the warning has already come from "on high." The only logical remedy is a flat-out "chavectomy" without hindrance or delay.

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