Is this a possible way to generate energy by fusor?

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Re: Is this a possible way to generate energy by fusor?

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Since fusion was not mentioned, a good electric, hot plate boiler would be far more efficient, though still grossly inefficient, even with a condenser in the system.

One must assume any energy recovery scheme with a fusor at its core to generate steam involves the poser's feeling that he or she will get fusion based transfer of energy. Thus, the cheeky response. We are here to educate and put dreams of spending a fortune to make a real fusor with the thought that they will get net energy to rest. A great waste of electricity and valuable deuterium to drive a steam turbine. Even the much vaunted, multi-billion dollar ITER, if completely successful, will not drive a steam cycle to make electricity, unless one is attached as an after thought. Heck, even the 1945-46 little "water boiler" was hooked up to light a couple of lamps. The early series of test bed reactors powered the town of Arco in the early 50's well before the Nautilus or Shipping Port less than 14 years after the discovery of fission. Fusion remains forever in the doldrums and approaches the first century anniversary of its discovery well before fission.

It seems the very word fusor and fusion with the "star in a jar" imagery, seems to drag in the hopeful, when at best, its scientific value, regardless of expense, is as a useful amateur source of neutrons for experiment.

For the great masses, thus far successful in doing fusion, the fusor represents merely a blustery badge of honor on their path to the next DIY. The vast majority of those arriving here, whether they just lurk or join, never lift a finger to do anything. Lots of dreaming and no action. Inertia of kinetic action is a harsh law of physics that seems to be the major actor here.

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Re: Is this a possible way to generate energy by fusor?

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"Both" as in one idea and then followed by the other idea - not a reference to both of you who commented; sure, I think everyone should know the Carnot cycle but realize that is a bridge too far for many. Besides, I seriously doubt most such fantasy based thinker's will ever bother with such crude reality - gets in the way of deep thinking ... not. For any newbie that wants a superficial idea about the Carnot cycle - it relates the operating temperature and pressure of the heated system to its 'discharge temperature/pressure waste system and defines the total possible work that any such heat based system can create. A really good power plant (say gas) that can achieve in the low thirty percent input energy converted to work is doing fantastic and recall that such a plant is burning fuel at atmospheric pressure at about 1000 K.
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Re: Is this a possible way to generate energy by fusor?

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I think we'll just have to wait until the original poster clarifies the definition of "generate energy".

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