What happened to the Element List?

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What happened to the Element List?

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Anyone know what happened to the element list? It's been missing for about a month now. Tough to get along without it!

Was located here:
http://www2.bnl.gov/ton/cgi-bin/elemlist

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Hi Jon:

If you don't down load it it's lost.
Homeland "suckurity" has classified the elements!
I guess box end wrenches will be next!
I had to go back to old uncensored CRCs for data that used to be on line.

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All of the national labs have decided that they will not contribute one iota of real information to anyone for any reason. In the bureaucracy it is called "cover you ass" and "not on my watch".

The stuff is all over the internet, just not at the government labs anymore, which by the way, are our labs with our info obtained at the publics behest and with public dollars.

What ever happened to the bold and honest commitment by the government to open the national labs up following the fall of the evil empire in a partnership with the public and business and industry.

Oh well another one bites th' dust.

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Ahhh... I see. Our tax dollars at work. But I always thought our tax dollars were supposed to work FOR us, not AGAINST us!

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Check out http://www2.bnl.gov/ - quite a few links have gone. But not to worry - the Tokamak is still there.

Dont know if much use - http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.c ... (complete)

or - http://atom.kaeri.re.kr/

or - http://www.directory.net/Science/Chemis ... dic_Table/

or - http://sutekh.nd.rl.ac.uk/CoN/

and while it lasts ;- http://t2.lanl.gov/data/map.html

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The sites at http://www2.bnl.gov/ are almost all dead. Some of those few which still work have nothing to do with scientific research (management, overshight, convention informations, a large volume press thingie). The couple sites that have something to do with scientific research, though there, the links on those sites are mostly DEAD. It seems, those links which lead to data, or useful info on a project.
Interesting...Like they simply deleted most of the websites there.
I've constantly cam over "Page Not Found".
Is there some maintaince? Or why are they removing all this stuff?

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Hi Folks:

They left all the tokamak stuff caus it don't work!
And they know it.
Besides the hallroom monitors in charge now don't see why we need it anyway...we can alway outsource to the Indians and Paskistanians!
Dull and Duller are at the helm now.
Is that a rock Sir?

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Hi Jon:

Talk like that will get a you a free suite at GITMO.
The individual ideal is not what is in the air now!
Voting is not a joke anymore.

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Found it alive and well in Korea.

http://atom.kaeri.re.kr/ton/

Enjoy....

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Hi John:

They don't have a Bush san.
Good to hear the elements are availible for use to we poor underprivilaged Yanks.
Oh the Irony!
LOL :^)

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Ola!

I seriously need to finsh that CD, and move other data like this onto it. Are there any other indespensible online references that should be archived before they too are burned?
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Kerry, most of the files on the FAS site are really worth archiving. I downloaded over 2 gig and burned to DVD. I use web reaper to get site contents that I suspect may disapear one day....
I did not get everything from FAS, but most. If you would like a copy of the DVD I can mail it to you.

If you get a Fusor going you will have to let me know, as it is only a 50 minute drive up there, and would love to get togther. I am worlds away from Fuson, but do dream...

Regards,

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Hello David! I would love a copy of that DVD, I'll email you my address as soon as I bring my mail server back online (had evil hardware failure, motherboard ate CPU, think it ate some memory too, that’ll be my weekend...)

I too grab entire sites once I see good stuff there. I've been experimenting with search engine and database technology, I really want to setup a nice framework that us amateurs can use to index and mine the documents, there’s just too much there to remember it all.

I do plan to get a Fusor up and running, I really miss doing hard science at home, just keep having real life get in the way. I’m estimating 1 more year to gamma spectrometer online, 2 years to neutron production, maybe sooner if I get lucky on eBay during a month without major hardware failures at home. :)
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Also for Magnetic Dipole and Electric Quadrupole Moments

http://www.nndc.bnl.gov/nndc/stone_mome ... oments.pdf
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