Heavy Ion Gun

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Codecat
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Heavy Ion Gun

Post by Codecat » Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:55 am

Hi All

Does anyone have any thoughts or ideas about a heavy ion source? Say something to generate a heavy gas ions for acceleration, such as Argon, Xenon, Krypton or (horrors) Radon?

Thanks, and all the best of the season to everybody!

Joe H, KB0TXC

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Re: Heavy Ion Gun

Post by Q » Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:16 am

well, 'the bell jar' had some articles about using microwave oven magnetrons to produce plasmas with heavier gasses. perhaps that could be of use. (www.belljar.net)

i would think that an ion gun for heavier gasses would be essentially the same with different voltages used for ionization and accerleration.

what do you have in mind?

Q

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Re: Heavy Ion Gun

Post by Codecat » Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:27 am

Right now, I am working on my vacuum system, mostly. Eventually, I would like to construct a linear accelerator that accelerates heavy ions. Thanks for the belljar.net tip!

All the best and 73,

Joe

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Re: Heavy Ion Gun

Post by Q » Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:08 am

no problem. i also seem to remember a psudospark ion source article or two. and if memory serves me (but be warned, i have the memory of a lima bean) the scientific american's amareur scientist colum had some particle accelerator atricles. there is info on this in the "books" section. (one of these days i'm gonna actually get my own copy of the amateur scientist collection)

hope this helps...

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Re: Heavy Ion Gun

Post by dsanco » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:19 pm

As heavy as these elements are, Nitrogen makes up aproximately 78% of the atmosphere. Easily obtainable, and when frozen or liquified takes remarkably small space for the vapor volume supplied. Now imagine running two oppositely charged streams of charged nitrogen into each other. Charged to 10kV relative between the streams, I suspect fusion energies to be present. Converting the nitrogen molecules into silicon, scandium, or zinc, which may then decompose into hydrogen or helium nuclei, and energy. Have I done it, no. It just seems that if the Fusor works, this based on similar principals may as well.

JoeHerdler wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts or ideas about a heavy ion source? Say something to generate a heavy gas ions for acceleration, such as Argon, Xenon, Krypton or (horrors) Radon?
>
> Thanks, and all the best of the season to everybody!
>
> Joe H, KB0TXC

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Re: Heavy Ion Gun

Post by Richard Hull » Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:10 pm

Sorry, but that won't do it. This kind of fusion is hot fusion and the cross section for N-N not very inviting. 10KEV would be just heated ion collisions.

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