Spellman DXM70N600X3547 power supplies on ebay -70kV 8.56MA

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Re: Spellman DXM70N600X3547 power supplies on ebay -70kV 8.5

Post by Joshua Guertler » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:57 pm

What type of rectifier did you use to get the power to DC?

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Post by Trent Carter » Tue Aug 01, 2017 2:09 am

I have two of these and I was considering running them in parallel to double the current from 8.5mA to 17mA.

I have a decent array of HVR-1X 3 Diodes. They are rated at 12kV 500mA each in an array of 16 per string. They were on PCBs to rectify 125kV.
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Here is what I was considering:

DXM-1 ---- 16x string of HVR-1X 3 ------|
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|------330 kOhm @ 100W -------Fusor Cathode
DXM-2 ---- 16x string of HVR-1X 3 ------|

Or I can split the ballast

DXM-1 ---- 16x string of HVR-1X 3 ----126KOhm 100W Ballast--|
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|---------Fusor Cathode
DXM-2 ---- 16x string of HVR-1X 3 ----126KOhm 100W Ballast--|

Last option, a series parallel ballast:

DXM-1 ---- 16x string of HVR-1X 3 ----63KOhm 100W Ballast--|
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|---80kOhm 100W ballast------Fusor Cathode
DXM-2 ---- 16x string of HVR-1X 3 ----63KOhm 100W Ballast--|

Do you think I would be safe? Safe = Not damage my new DXMs.

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Re: Spellman DXM70N600X3547 power supplies on ebay -70kV 8.56MA

Post by Peter Schmelcher » Fri May 04, 2018 8:41 am

Using Andrews connector autopsy as a starting point I printed a Claymount style HV connector in PLA.

It’s a work in progress but basically you cast silicone between a PLA shell and the HV cable to eliminate any air voids between the cable and the shell.

The HV connector plug has a 0.5degree taper so all the o rings engage together for the last 2cm of insertion. I only used ¾”ID x 15/16OD silicone o rings and varied the notch diameter for a good fit.

I printed with a 0.4mm diameter nozzle and 0.15mm layer thickness. The walls are 0.8mm thick (two nozzles diameters).

The STL files are about 16meg because of the printed 0.75mm pitch threads. I can't attach the .stl files to my post so PM if you want the stl files.

I fit tested the connector on both of my Spellman, one is perfect all the o rings engage together for the last 2cm of insertion requiring a pleasing amount of force, and the other is similar but requires excess force, in my opinion. I expect just some grease is needed on the o rings.

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Re: Spellman DXM70N600X3547 power supplies on ebay -70kV 8.56MA

Post by Samuel Low » Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:16 am

Andrew Seltzman wrote:
Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:42 am
I've compiled the matlab m files into a stand alone program that ramps the supply up to 10kV, it should start ramping up the voltage when executed.
DXM_test.zip
You will need the matlab runtime(free) on your computer to run the program
Get the Windows 64-bit version of the MATLAB Runtime for R2016a
https://www.mathworks.com/products/compiler/mcr/
Andrew thank you very much for this MATLAB code. As with all others, I've tried to run my Spellman DXM 30kV power supply but the Java Applet just isn't working. Your MATLAB code runs as it does, but somehow the queried voltage out is still showing me a flat zero... I am not sure why. I have not done anything else except to:

1. plug in the Ethernet crossover cables
2. verify that I can ping 192.168.1.4
3. verify that I can open the Java applet (but not use it, TCP/IP connection shows a blank and the buttons are non-responsive)
4. proceeded to run your MATLAB code, changing all options in your code from remote to local (because I am doing a direct connection between my laptop and the spellman unit).

I've attached the plot. I don't really understand why it doesn't work, the code seems to be working properly and I am successfully querying information such as the server versions and things like that.

Also, has anyone been able to get the Java applet to work on Windows 7? Seems the manual says it works only for Windows-based OS's up till XP.

Anyway, if anyone wants to get their hands on a CA11 cable that connects from a Spellman HV unit, the cheapest I have found so far is about 300USD (inclusive of shipping), from a company called Varex Imaging in the Phillipines. https://www.vareximaging.com/products/c ... connectors

The contact person in charge of cable sales, email: alina.latayan@vareximaging.com
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Post by Andrew Seltzman » Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:08 pm

I don't see an attached plot, could you upload the plot and the text output printed to the matlab terminal?

It sounds like one of the interlocks is tripped, do you have the proper pins jumpered on the 15pin connector?

The java applet is really old and dosen't work on current OS.
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Re: Spellman DXM70N600X3547 power supplies on ebay -70kV 8.56MA

Post by Richard Hull » Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:35 pm

In years gone by, I always thought the world would end when, in a rat's nest of cables within a critical function, one would come adrift or be plugged into one of many jacks that was woefully wrong. Now I am convinced it will end in bad code uploaded from another operating system long ago abandoned, but triggering a set of events that are irreversible instead of just failing to work correctly.

As an old programmer, I have seen things go bad like this as one attempts to fix or update undocumented code written long ago that operated many dangerous "switches and routings" within a complex system.

I laughed at one episode of Big Bang Theory when Leonard asked Sheldon what he had planned for the weekend, as he pulled out a dual floppy drive. Sheldon replied, "I plan on enjoying a weekend recalling and exploring the joys of Windows 95."

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Re: Spellman DXM70N600X3547 power supplies on ebay -70kV 8.56MA

Post by Trent Carter » Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:43 pm

I bought (eBay) and repaired another one of these nice supplies.

This was my longest repair as I needed two Mouser orders which take a few days and it really was a difficult troubleshoot. As I dont need the supply, nor was it financially expensive, it was really just for fun. As entertainment it was a nice relaxing repair. Total time 3-4 hours over two weeks.

Unit 3:
Symptom: Blinking power light. Looks like it starts to power up then resets, then repeats. Constant clicking from from low V relay. No HV, no serial or ethernet comm.

Parts obviously blown:
R218 5W short
R228 10K 1W resistor blown in half
C149 33uF 450V Capacitor - Bulged on top so much it shorted to the cover leaving a black carbon footprint and likely doing most of the damage.

Also found:
Q6
Q8
Q11
Q10
All bad. Short between two of three pins, but no obvious thermal damage.

CR34 MUR460 had failed. I happen to have one from an aerospace powersupply.

Had to order Mouser IXFH26N50P Mosfet as the OEM component is EOL. This may help other as it does seem to work!

I also found one little Diode that went short on me near C149, I think it was CR65 or 66.

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Re: Spellman DXM70N600X3547 power supplies on ebay -70kV 8.56MA

Post by Richard Hull » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:48 pm

Great restoration and troubleshooting. Others will be glad to know of specific components you found bad as in many cases the same systems tend to be weak or fail along the same lines.....And the same components

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