A semi-DIY preamplifier for radiation detectors

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Rich Feldman
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Re: A semi-DIY preamplifier for radiation detectors

Post by Rich Feldman » Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:00 am

My first unattended data collection was inspired by Greg Courville's low-rate counting method, but might be more primitive.
No computer or MCA was occupied during a 115-minute run, then same configuration in a 94 minute run with accidental loss of 44 minutes in the middle. Electrical changes for noise reduction have not been made yet.

An old Wingscapes Birdcam was set in front of scope, as close as it can focus without reading glasses (which come later).
Time lapse mode with minimum delay setting, 30s, takes a picture about every 40s.
Each image shows the result of most recent scope trigger event. There could have been more than one trigger, or none, since the previous image.

Then pictures were individually categorized by eye, like Greg did IIRC.
Most are first image of a "good" pulse. The automatically measured height went into a spreadsheet.
About 28% of the images are redundant (no scope trigger since last event). Sometimes 3 or 4 in a row.
Then there are pictures of "bad" waveforms, where trigger event was some disturbance other than a charge impulse into CSP.
A few are of "deformed" pulses, and two show unmeasurably narrow "glitches" with no 140-us tail.

Here are the largest "good" pulse (36 mV), a small one (11.2 mV), four deformed ones, and one bad waveform.
cam_scope_0422mosaic.JPG
Now a chart of all good and deformed pulses, by height and when they happened. Run2 is appended right after Run1.
cam_scope_0422vt.JPG
Finally a short numerical summary:
cam_scope_0422counts.JPG
I think most of these counts are from the intended AmBe source kluge, but don't claim to have proper evidence yet.
Have shown some evidence about the instrument's repeatability.
For later: try removing the alpha source, the beryllium, and both of them.
Then with those parts in the original positions, remove the moderator.
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Re: A semi-DIY preamplifier for radiation detectors

Post by Richard Hull » Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:59 am

Decent Am-Be sources start to be highly useful at the 25uCi level in working up neutron detection schemes. Zero statistical work is needed at the 100uCi level. Much also depends on the detector tube type, active volume and pre-amp.

At best, one might expect a 10,000:1 ratio in well coupled sources. Thus, a 1uci isotropic source buried in powered Be would produce 3 neutrons/sec.... probably less and this is isotropic emission!
A 25 uCi source, well coupled, would do about 75 n/s iso. In a tight, pure water or plastic moderator a fabulous 3He detector might count 1 count every two seconds, reliably.


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